Fasttrax Trackdays: Nelson, BeaveRun, Bluegrass

[Apollo]

new webpage:
www.ridefasttrax.com

We're also trying to add a few more beaver dates to our calendar. The cost for an open trackday will be $150 for either Beaver or Nelson. The membership costs have been eliminated. This way, anyone can tack on a day to their calendar if they wish. If you are a nesba or stt guy, you simply schedule for the advanced/open time (separate from the guided instruction) and show up! These days are held on a Saturday 90% of the time.

If you want guided instruction or a first timer, we have guided instruction days for $225.

[Lizard 1]

new webpage:
www.ridefasttrax.com

We're also trying to add a few more beaver dates to our calendar. The cost for an open trackday will be $150 for either Beaver or Nelson. The membership costs have been eliminated. This way, anyone can tack on a day to their calendar if they wish. If you are a nesba or stt guy, you simply schedule for the advanced/open time (separate from the guided instruction) and show up! These days are held on a Saturday 90% of the time.

If you want guided instruction or a first timer, we have guided instruction days for $225.

I see you are doing an almost mirror copy of what STT does. Are you working with them on this venture?

[Apollo]

If by mirror you mean we both run motorcycles on a track and collect money, then ok. :D

Actually, we are quite a bit different from either NESBA or STT. We decided that unlike everyone else, we aren't going to have a membership fee to allow anyone to tack on a trackday to their schedule. The race weekend has the track day on saturday with the endurance racing that afternoon. The sprints are on sunday. This way it reduces the amount of days we need to rent, and provides most of our days on the weekend when people can come out. Most of our days in the past were on weekdays, and we felt it was time for a change.
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The goal of FASTTRAX has always been the race series, and helping run trackdays feeds both the non racers needs as well as pulling people towards our series. Granted there aren't many organizations that don't focus on just one aspect (wera vs nesba/stt) we are quite unique. We don't currently run a nearly open track format like nesba, as we still have the heavy instructional days mixed in with the open time. (like many of the special riding schools, aka CA Superbike) This is at least for now. Actually, I noticed stt started offered their own version of what was our "schools" themselves. So if anything, they were copying us. It's not an issue though, we are all in this together with the way the economy is.

So Instructional Track Day, Open Time, or Racing. Take your pick, we have it.

[Lizard 1]

If by mirror you mean we both run motorcycles on a track and collect money, then ok. :D

Actually, we are quite a bit different from either NESBA or STT. We decided that unlike everyone else, we aren't going to have a membership fee to allow anyone to tack on a trackday to their schedule. The race weekend has the track day on saturday with the endurance racing that afternoon. The sprints are on sunday. This way it reduces the amount of days we need to rent, and provides most of our days on the weekend when people can come out. Most of our days in the past were on weekdays, and we felt it was time for a change.
:thumbsup

The goal of FASTTRAX has always been the race series, and helping run trackdays feeds both the non racers needs as well as pulling people towards our series. Granted there aren't many organizations that don't focus on just one aspect (wera vs nesba/stt) we are quite unique. We don't currently run a nearly open track format like nesba, as we still have the heavy instructional days mixed in with the open time. (like many of the special riding schools, aka CA Superbike) This is at least for now. Actually, I noticed stt started offered their own version of what was our "schools" themselves. So if anything, they were copying us. It's not an issue though, we are all in this together with the way the economy is.

So Instructional Track Day, Open Time, or Racing. Take your pick, we have it.



STT didn't copy FT - Monte had a gentleman's agreement with Bob. STT's been doing it based off their own formula. I need you to please have Todd call me - I lost his number due to the website being taken down and renewed - I had his number in a PM...

[Apollo]

You can e-mail him at
**removed e-mail*** 12 Feb

Yep, Monte and Bob Stanley go way back. That's how his track day organization got started. It's been really impressive how wide spread his trackday service has gotten. However, if I am retelling the story the way Todd K. told me, they started with pretty much open track days with minimal instruction. They then branched out in more detailed performance riding days like fasttrax's schools. There is nothing wrong with it, we're not the only one giving instruction, as I said. STT has days with instruction and more open days pretty much separate. We're actually doing both at the same time, in most cases. The truth is, eventually fasttrax will be more like curvechasers, nesba, and the like, with the guided instruction taking a backseat to more open time. However, this year we are still our own bird. Regardless, why don't you come and join us on an open day of practice or a race? Remember, no member fees for open track time.
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[Lizard 1]

Regardless, why don't you come and join us on an open day of practice or a race? Remember, no member fees for open track time.
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Uh, I am an STT instructor...

[Apollo]

I know you are one of Monte's minions. :)
What's stopping you from racing with us? STT doesn't race.

[ipassedu2]

I love that FT doesnt have a membership fee! I will post you track schedule on our site and try to get some of our people to come to your events! We will be racing with FT at least 1 time this year too for our first time!

[Lizard 1]

I know you are one of Monte's minions. :)
What's stopping you from racing with us? STT doesn't race.

Well, it has to do with the track days... I'll leave it at that not to muddy the water and until I can talk with Todd...

[Apollo]

I love that FT doesnt have a membership fee! I will post you track schedule on our site and try to get some of our people to come to your events! We will be racing with FT at least 1 time this year too for our first time!

Yeah, we'd appreciate it. Any other forums you can spam our stuff on, feel free. We're also looking to add a few more dates on the board, so stay tuned.

[Lizard 1]

I love that FT doesnt have a membership fee! I will post you track schedule on our site and try to get some of our people to come to your events! We will be racing with FT at least 1 time this year too for our first time!

Not sure why people are all upset over the membership fees STT requires. It's $35 for the year and if you do just three days, that's just over $10 a day. Take Bluegrass. $150 IF they can get the date. It won't be a full day as they say since they are going to squeeze in the endurance event and endurance practice.

STT is $165 for the 9-5 deal. Plus that $10 if you only did three events - $175. The Novice group is MUCH more classroom oriented and even though FT states you'll get one on one time unlike "other organization", STT can offer that to you easily. Plus, we do classroom sessions... We also have more instructors to watch over everyone and can offer personal one on one at most anytime through the course of the day. Typically, we have over 20 staff available for the three groups.

If you take Nelson, you'll save the $25, but you ride Nelson... If FT is now going to be competing against STT, I am not sure if STT would stay out of Nelson Ledges. They had a Gentleman's Agreement with Bob and if this is going to go on, I think it might be void... If they'd go, I suspect that Monte could offer $99 days at Nelson if there was interest enough to get people to come up there and do STT Days. After all, rental for Nelson is really cheap...

[ipassedu2]

I dont know why lizard,but that dam $30 extra really grinds my gears lol. Plus the only rason for stt is mid ohio and i can go to the ones you guys and mid ohio share and avoid the $30.

[Apollo]

Bluegrass will be a totally open 9-5 date with no racing that day....
(edit: if we even hold a trackday that race week, it is yet to be determined)

It's funny that you talk about our schools, yet I don't believe you showed up at any of our events last year. We've catered to tons of cruisers and even touring bikes on our beginner day, so I have no idea how you can be more "beginner friendly". I haven't been to a STT beginner day, so I'm not going to try and compare like you just did. Yes, our instructional days/schools are $225 vs STT's $299. Yes, we have about one instructor for ever 3-4 students. No, we don't ride only at Nelson anymore. We've had classroom sessions at FASTTRAX since I joined in 07, so I have no idea where you got the idea that we don't.

Now Lizard 1, I know you are loyal to STT, but you are getting to the point of ridiculous. I don't know why you feel so threatened. STT runs over a hundred days a year, compared to what will amount to maybe 10 at 2 or 3 tracks for us. We aren't exactly going to topple the STT empire. If you want to advertise STT, fine, but please stay out of our threads. I've been very kind all this time, so please return the courtesy. You are making STT look bad with how you are behaving. Not only that, but most of your points of argument aren't even based on the facts.

You were wrong about the bluegrass date, wrong about us not having classroom sessions (wth?), wrong about our instructor ratio, etc. We run trackdays where we race, as we are still focused on racing.

FASTTRAX has held open practice events at Beaverun and Putnam in the past, simply going back to what already existed won't hurt anyone. We never were a Nelson only organization, so that perception is way off. If you have any issues, have Monte contact Todd. For the integrity of both our organizations, please keep this bickering out of the public spotlight. FASTTRAX won't fall to that level, we're better than that.

-Matt

[Lizard 1]

I dont know why lizard,but that dam $30 extra really grinds my gears lol. Plus the only rason for stt is mid ohio and i can go to the ones you guys and mid ohio share and avoid the $30.


WERA racers get the membership fees waved at certain events. I will get the exacts and let you know...

[ipassedu2]

that would be cool lizard.

[MelloGS]

You are making STT look bad with how you are behaving.
-Matt

That's the way it looks on my screen... I'll find out for myself this year.

[Kanatuna]

As will I. lol

[Lizard 1]

That's the way it looks on my screen... I'll find out for myself this year.

Are you referring to me as to what Matt stated?

I am not sure how I am making STT look bad. There's a story to all of this and I will share it via PMs if you'd like. I'm not going to get involved in this any more as Monte has told me what will happen from here forward and he and I have decided it isn't worth it.

You'll enjoy STT track days for sure. We run a good program and will cater to you in any way we can. Look me up and I'd be glad to help you out if you'd like.

[MelloGS]

You already asked me to share my abilities with you at BG. I'll take all the advice you give me and polish it to perfection.
No matter what organization it is, I will enjoy it cause I'll be with our AssfaultJunkies.

[Lizard 1]

You already asked me to share my abilities with you at BG. I'll take all the advice you give me and polish it to perfection.
No matter what organization it is, I will enjoy it cause I'll be with our AssfaultJunkies.


Be glad to help. No matter what a few guys on here think. You can easily ask on a few other boards as to how I am as a person and a rider. I'll leave it at that - don't trust what you read here as those who do say what they say have not even been to a track or at least not at the level I know you are capable.

That being said, just ask and I would be glad to help if I can. I will be down there and doing a lot of one on one for guys and all you need to do is ask.

Cheers.

[Kanatuna]

I think Mello and I were saying the same thing. I plan on running with both organizations this year in between WERA races. I will find out for myself. No better way. :thumbsup