synching carbs

[ninety6]

I need to synch my carbs i think :-)... anyone have the equipment & know how to do so, and willing to help me out? :)

maybe we could have a carb synching party for anyone else that needs to adjust......

[Dave Bannister]

you may need to adjust valves and change plugs then sync the carbs... I have done this but not a real expert by no means and
this mostly helps your bike start well, warm up quicker
and idle nice .As soon as you open the throttle and ride your bike the sync is no longer much an issue you are using the other systems in your carb... If your bike isn't running as good after winter you might get lucky by a simple tune-up and carb cleaner to a tank of gas and ride ride ride..... Bikes really don't like sitting around and with the long winter we just had might of gummed up the carb slightly...

:what:

Just a guess

[ninety6]

well, maybe it doesn't need it then.... it runs fine... just a tad rough on warm-up, no big deal at all....

gotta suggestion for a good carb cleaner? and is it just a bottle of gook that i stick in my next full tank of gas and let it run through?

i'm planning on sticking in a new set of plugs here soon, and i need to adjust my idle, it runs a little high after it warms up...

thanks!!

[Dave Bannister]

you really won't use a whole bottle of carb cleaner for 1 tank but may use it all in the next 3 tank fulls....I don't have any brand that I swear by so guess your best unless some one else here on the list has some knowledge with different cleaners?:what:

Burn a couple tanks Fresh gas, new plugs, oil, and clean air filter makes for a :D bike..

[ninety6]

can i get carb cleaner at auto parts store? or do i need to go to motorcycle store?

[baddean]

Davey's on to something here. If you have the same gas in the bike that was there when you put it up for the winter, you need to get fresh gas in the bike FIRST, before you do anything else. If you live near a station that sells Turbo Blue, top off the tank with that. It will help boost the old gas you have in the tank and help to clean out the carbs, or, dump the old gas and fill up with fresh. Beyond that, make sure you have all of the old gas out and fresh gas in before you adjust anything. It ran fine when you put it up for the winter didn't it? It doesn't go out of adjustment sitting.
Hope this helps, Dean

Quote from our fearless leader (Davey)
Burn a couple tanks Fresh gas, new plugs, oil, and clean air filter makes for a happy bike..

[fj12dean]

Originally posted by Dave Bannister
you really won't use a whole bottle of carb cleaner for 1 tank but may use it all in the next 3 tank fulls....I don't have any brand that I swear by so guess your best unless some one else here on the list has some knowledge with different cleaners?:what:

Burn a couple tanks Fresh gas, new plugs, oil, and clean air filter makes for a :D bike..

if you're wanting something to add to your gas, i've heard lots of recommendations for the chevron-brand of fuel system additive with "techron" or something like that, it's in a black bottle.

[ninety6]

thanks everyone... i guess i should have a been a little more clear...

the bike runs fine. the gas isn't old, i rode it throughout winter... for the most part about once every 2 weeks or so... whenever it was above freezing and dry :cool:


once it warms up, it idles a tad high, i think its running a tad rich.

the reason i was looking to maybe synch the carbs was b/c it was recommended (http://www.fzrarchives.com) that FZR's should be synched every 6 months. now there is no way i'm gonna do it that often, but i figured maybe once each spring... but if it doesn't need it, it doesn't need it... is there a good way to tell? or as long as the bike runs fine should i just RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE :cool: :cool: :cool: also, i was kinda looking at it with preventative maintenence in mind, to keep the bike in good shape :thumbsup

but, its my first bike, i've only had it for about a year, so i'm still learnin all this stuff ;)

[pguest]

Even though you were riding it through the winter, how long did the tankful of gasoline last?
I add Stabil to the gas in the tank if I think the gasoline won't get used up within 2-3 weeks.
I've learned my lesson with my first bike to add Stabil. Lesson learned after cleaning those carbs 3 times!

[ninety6]

probably used 2/3 gallons every couple weeks, but always filled up, so never ran the tank to reserve or anything....

[fj12dean]

Originally posted by pguest
Even though you were riding it through the winter, how long did the tankful of gasoline last?
I add Stabil to the gas in the tank if I think the gasoline won't get used up within 2-3 weeks.
I've learned my lesson with my first bike to add Stabil. Lesson learned after cleaning those carbs 3 times!

are you sure? it's my impression that gas has to sit a lot longer than three weeks before it starts gumming up. maybe it depends on the brand of gas you had?

[bprodoehl]

i use KLOTZ octane booster in my bikes year round to prevent carb problems.this stuff is also acarb cleaner and fuel stabilizer.it also helps to counter-act the problems many of us here in NO-KY are having with oxygenated gas.(if at all possible avoid buying pump gas in boone kenton or campbell counties unlessyou use some form of stabilizer)


race gas (unocal 110)can be purchased at the vicalia mkt located near the intersection of ky536& 177,not far from ky 10.

[pguest]

What I should have said perhaps is that I learned my lesson after letting my first bike get stored over a winter or 2 without adding Stabil for the entire winter.
So I don't take any chances from now on.

Turbo Blue is available at Wichards in Bethel on Rt 125 next to the feed store. Last I knew the price was around $3.50/gallon.

[RJH_5150]

There was a local gas station where I grew up (out in the boonies) that sold turbo blue in the summer and kerosene in the winter from the same tank. I don't know if other stations do this but beware this might be a bad time of year to get turbo blue. It wouldn’t hurt to ask first.:what:

[Dave Bannister]

Originally posted by fj12dean
are you sure? it's my impression that gas has to sit a lot longer than three weeks before it starts gumming up. maybe it depends on the brand of gas you had?

A lot plays in the equation and I don't know all the factors but leaving your fuel tank not full increases the amount of fuel coming that comes in contact with atmosphere which is a factor in fuel becomes unstable and tarnish, gumming occurs..

Bills point quote ( avoid buying oxygenated gas pump gas in boone kenton or campbell counties unlessyou use some form of stabilizer)

YUK! don't count on having a good day if it gets this far... Starting the bike and riding NO MATTER WHAT each month and topping off you're fuel tanks is all the defense it takes plus fuel-stable works great and you can get away with not starting your bike as often too...


Did we get off topic from sync carbs? :confused:

should we split this off somehere?

[pguest]

Originally posted by Dave Bannister

Did we get off topic from sync carbs? :confused:

should we split this off somehere?

Yeah, I was wondering, isn't Nutec "oxygenated"? Not that your average street rider is going to put Nutec in his/her motorcycle.

Isn't that supposed to increase it's effectiveness?
Am I not understanding something?

Filling the tank to the top with fuel prevents condensation & then rust in the gas tank, which causes problems too.

And this has nothing to do with carb sync either.:D

[svaletti]

Ninety6,

I assume you're referring to your 600 regarding the carb synching since your GSXR is F/I.

Special Tools:
Mercury Synchronizer Set
Auxiliary Fuel Tank (makes adjustments a WHOLE lot easier)

I use Motion Pro stuff. You can find both tools here (http://www.motionpro.com/Docs/servicetools.html)

I would follow the directions that the other guys stated, but I wouldn't toss a carb sync out. I think you would surprised at how carbs will get out of sync and how well they run after synched properly.

Maybe you and a few of your riding buddies can get together and split the cost of the two tools (you can make your own aux. fuel tank) and share them. Problem is...if they've got late model bikes....they are probably F/I.