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Old 07-16-2015   #1
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I bought a new to me 2nd gen Triumph Tiger and am going to put on new tires for the BRP trip. Am thinking Shinko 705's or 804-805's. any opinions? Pretty sure either choice will be wore out by the end of the trip but was more concerned with feel at speed.
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Old 07-16-2015   #2
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Re: tire choices

When I got my Tiger 1050 it had just had a new set of Shinko Raven's installed by the dealer (purely street oriented) They're holding up pretty well. I think I've got a couple of thousand on them so far and not bad. I'm thinking that when they go South I may look for a 90%-10% tire for a little grip for those times it does go into the gravel (shhhh don't tell my wife). The 705's look to be the tire but I've not used them before (I think Witttom has).
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Old 07-16-2015   #3
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I can wholeheartedly endorse the 705s. I've put a couple of pairs on the WeeStrom and they wore well, were great in both the dry and wet as far as grip, and had great feel at the limit of adhesion--you can rail these tires almost as well as a sport tire. One thing that you prolly won't like--until you get some miles on them--is the on-center feel and the transition at turn-in. They have a VERY light feel on-center, almost like tracking on grooved pavement, but you get used to it and it seems to get better (less twitchy) after you wear 'em in for a few hundred miles. The fast tip-in on transition is a little unsettling until you get used to the feel, and then if you're like me, you'll actually like the sensation. Makes for very quick transitions in the twisties. The only negative I can think of is that they can be a bit buzzy due to the big tread blocks, but you'll get that from any DS tire. They feel fine on gravel and graded dirt--used 'em to ride many of the secondary roads when I was out in CO--but I'd guess they wouldn't do well in mud or slippery conditions. Never used the 804/805s but they seem to be getting good reviews.

FYI--I'm referring to the radial Shinkos, not the bias ply. Not sure if the bias tires are even still available, but wouldn't go there.
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Old 07-16-2015   #4
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I bought a new to me 2nd gen Triumph Tiger and am going to put on new tires for the BRP trip. Am thinking Shinko 705's or 804-805's. any opinions? Pretty sure either choice will be wore out by the end of the trip but was more concerned with feel at speed.
Assuming that's some of the crap you got from your brother. I've been drooling over that Tiger for some time now. Congrats!

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When I got my Tiger 1050 it had just had a new set of Shinko Raven's installed by the dealer (purely street oriented) They're holding up pretty well. I think I've got a couple of thousand on them so far and not bad. I'm thinking that when they go South I may look for a 90%-10% tire for a little grip for those times it does go into the gravel (shhhh don't tell my wife). The 705's look to be the tire but I've not used them before (I think Witttom has).
Shinko Ravens not available in a 19" front (at least I don't think so).

The Shinko 705's get a lot of good reviews. I've not personally used them.

The Shinko 244's are a decent cheap tire for lightweight dual-sports that do well on pavement. You would NOT want them for a heavy Tiger though.
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The Tiger 1050 is sort of a top heavy bike. You won't get too far off road with that. I'd be more worried about figuring out how to reduce the non stop buffet you get at 55 plus.
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The Tiger 1050 is sort of a top heavy bike. You won't get too far off road with that. I'd be more worried about figuring out how to reduce the non stop buffet you get at 55 plus.
Todd doesn't have a Tiger 1050. He has the second generation Tiger.

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Old 07-17-2015   #7
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That's the one. Thanks for the feed back guys.
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"Girlie" is what they call that style! Almost got one myself but ended up on a 2010 model year.

Love all the Triumph talk lately, owned my Tiger 1050 for exactly 1 week and put 970 miles on the first 3 days through Deal's Gap territory!

Yours looks good! Big cases, auxiliary lights, highway pegs, windscreen, and are those custom extensions on your hand guards? Nice! The sumo fender is a cool touch!
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Old 07-17-2015   #9
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Other than wanting to put on new tires I can't seem to find anything that needs added or improved. Yet.....
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Old 07-17-2015   #10
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Re: tire choices

I really don't care for the 705 front tire... I've used many 705 rear's but only had 1 705 front so I end up running a tourance front with 705 in the rear for multiple sets of tires.. The 804/805 I just put a set on the shark bike( that's what paige calls my wee) haven't been in the gravel/dirt yet but they feel good for a street knobbie and there were priced right compared to the TKC's...

Congrats on the tiger looks well outfitted!
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I really don't care for the 705 front tire...
As I stated, the 705s have a weird feel on-center, mostly when new. They feel very twitchy at first, and they have an odd sensation of wanting to fall over when first leaned into a turn. Once you get used to the performance characteristics, they actually are pretty easy to rail in the twisties. Both Bryn and I--him on his BMW Dakar 650 and me on my DL650--had PLENTY of fun running with the big boys in NC on 28 and the other back roads on last year's BRP trip. Can't say I remember anyone having to wait for us at intersections. What's great is that when the pavement conditions turn to shit, they work better than any sport tire out there.

The only other thing I can say that might be a ding against the 705 is that after about 7000 miles, the front was pretty badly feathered even though the tire had lots of tread left to the wear indicator. When leaned over on the edge, I could feel the tread blocks "walking" in the turns, but they never let go and they always gave great feedback as to what was happening with the front end. Seriously doubt that any other DS tire with chunky side blocks would be any different....
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chunky side
Now you're just getting personal.
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As I stated, the 705s have a weird feel on-center, mostly when new. They feel very twitchy at first, and they have an odd sensation of wanting to fall over when first leaned into a turn. Once you get used to the performance characteristics, they actually are pretty easy to rail in the twisties. Both Bryn and I--him on his BMW Dakar 650 and me on my DL650--had PLENTY of fun running with the big boys in NC on 28 and the other back roads on last year's BRP trip. Can't say I remember anyone having to wait for us at intersections. What's great is that when the pavement conditions turn to shit, they work better than any sport tire out there.

The only other thing I can say that might be a ding against the 705 is that after about 7000 miles, the front was pretty badly feathered even though the tire had lots of tread left to the wear indicator. When leaned over on the edge, I could feel the tread blocks "walking" in the turns, but they never let go and they always gave great feedback as to what was happening with the front end. Seriously doubt that any other DS tire with chunky side blocks would be any different....
Yes nobody ever waited on you or Bryn ever no matter what tires you are running, and I couldn't agree more with when the road turns to shit those chunky tires do really shine!
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So which choice was made?
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Last I talked to Todd, he was going with the 804/805 combo. Be interesting to see how it wears on the fall trip.
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