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Yes I do 50 73.53%
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Old 09-14-2004   #1
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Trailbraking, yes or no?

I'm curious to find out everyone's opinion on trail braking. Whether street or track, I'd like to know why you practice or dont practice this method of riding.
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Old 09-14-2004   #2
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No, I'm not trying to win a race.
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Old 09-14-2004   #3
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Why do you have to be "racing" to use it?
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Old 09-14-2004   #4
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Define trailbraking, where does it stop, where does it end? I am often on the brakes slightly when I am turning into a curve. Why am I doing this? Don't know, it feels right
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Old 09-14-2004   #5
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Define trailbraking, where does it stop, where does it end? I am often on the brakes slightly when I am turning into a curve. Why am I doing this? Don't know, it feels right
Yes, that is what I am talking about. Rather than being completely off of the brakes, do you carry some of the front into the turn. Maybe not all turns, but some that warrant that type of riding if you want to...
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Old 09-14-2004   #6
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I do it.

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Old 09-14-2004   #7
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Ok, if this is the definition of tailbraking, yes, then I do it. Why? Honestly, I don't know. No one told me or taught me. It's just something I sometimes do, not always. I guess I am with Joern. It just feels right.
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Old 09-14-2004   #8
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guilty

trailbrake....good


thinking of throttle and brake as one or the other ....bad



not use rear brake.......dumb
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Old 09-14-2004   #9
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Re: guilty

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not use rear brake.......dumb
You're calling me dumb, I guess I have too ...

Ohh, nevermind, I learned using the rear brake
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Old 09-14-2004   #10
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My mommy told me if I trail-braked, I'd go blind. Or get hairy palms. And that it makes baby Jesus cry.

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Old 09-14-2004   #11
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My mommy told me if I trail-braked, I'd go blind. Or get hairy palms. And that it makes baby Jesus cry.

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Old 09-14-2004   #12
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Why do you have to be "racing" to use it?
I don't know. I'd rather be thinking about whats in the road or oncomming traffic than how bad my bike is going to snap over when I let off the front brake. In my opinion if you start using too many of these racing techniques it takes your attention away from the real goal. Which is getting to the next corner alive.

Let me ask, what does trail braking help YOU do?
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Old 09-14-2004   #13
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ultimately... trail braking lets you keep your entranice speed up on a corner as you just shave off what is needed to make the turn smoothly. Hindsight... maybe if you use trail braking you are riding what "some" call to fast for street riding... but it can help anyone riding a good pace as it may save an overcooked corner becoming a tragedy as you pass wide over double yellows.

the cons to it... some real nasty things can happen using braking on any corner on the road... one being tire lockup from sliding on gravel or just fine dusting which has bitten my ass already once.

so I don't think everyone should use it all the time but... I don't blame anyone for using it on the street if riding a good pace.

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Old 09-14-2004   #14
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Question What does trail braking help me do.....

I'll keep this oriented to street riding, since trail braking on the track is pretty self explainatory.

Let me first address the issue of safety. I share your belief in getting to the next corner alive, and yet safety when street riding is a bit relative to the situation. A guy on a harley going 30% of our pace could crest a hill and plow into a tractor pulling out of a driveway etc etc you know all the examples... I think it all boils down to what you feel comfortable doing when riding, how many risks are you willing to take and (barring no huge unexpected events) how far can you push without feeling overwhelmed.

The fact that a car could be in the wrong lane, or a dead deer in the road, or gravel etc etc is something that I take into account every time I go out. I do leave some room for error, but not as much as others. Otherwise, I wont be riding at a pace that is fun for me. Thats the risk factor. I'm comfortable with it.

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I'll use trailbraking minimally on roads in ky to control cornerspeed entry and things of that nature. On roads like deals gap I use it all the time. The sidewall of my front tires are always shredded beyond belief after 2 days there. It is riding at a very high level for street applications, and you would loose speed if you did not trailbrake. The idea of getting all of your braking before a turn is great, but sometimes it just isnt that fastest way through a turn.
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here is a good example of trailbraking on the street in action.
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