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Yes I do 50 73.53%
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Old 09-14-2004   #16
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Makes sense.

I see it like this though. You have 3 forces that have to share the available traction. Turning, acceleration, and deceleration. Only using one of these forces at a time would be safest, using 2 at a time like turning and acceleration and they have to share the available traction. Then add in a half cup of braking and in my world you have a the reciepe for a disaster cookie.

Like you said though, whatever floats your boat. I never use "trailbraking" unless I've entered a turn too fast. Key words being TOO FAST.
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Old 09-14-2004   #17
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definetly do NOT do this in the rain you wont like the results. other than that i do it even dirt bike riding alot i should say with that.
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Old 09-14-2004   #18
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I trail brake alot....I use it as an added safety precaustion when entering a corner a bit hot on the street.

As far as trail braking with the rear, i do it on occasion, usually when the road or track surface is rough. I just lay my big te on the brake lever to help settle the chassis and stabalize the bike. But be warned that over abundance of rear brake in a corner can lead to some really BAD things.
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Old 09-14-2004   #19
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Trailbraking? For street ridding? Eeeeek, scary. If you need to go really fast ya got to do what ya got to do. I do know this, if your on the front brake in a turn kind of hard and ya let off, you better be ready for the front to snap over. I found that out by accedent once and slowed down the rest of the day. lol But I guess it is another go fast tool.
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Old 09-14-2004   #20
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Before it turned into a street only thread, the answer was: "There are occasions where I never touch the brake until after my knee is on the ground." I guess that would qualify as trail braking then.
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Old 09-14-2004   #21
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I'd like somebody to post a definition of trailbraking.

I have always been told that it is a technique used (With the front brake) to compress the front suspension, tighting up the bike to get better traction from the front tire in a turn. NOT a technique to use when entering a turn too hot. Am I wrong?

I was just getting the hang of it with my Katana, really smoothed out the bike in tight and down hill turns. Don't need it now with the SV (gotta love the V-twin).
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Old 09-15-2004   #22
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You betcha...

Everything, in moderation.
Front brake, rear brake, trailbraking - I dig it all baby.... yeaaahh!

I think this is another of those terms that's become fashionable for trackies to use - as if they invented braking in turns. I learned to do it riding in London thirty years ago... I just treat the bike and the road with respect, trust in Allah and only open my eyes again when the screaming stops!!
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Old 09-15-2004   #23
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I've been trailbraking for years and the technique is a bit tricky for newbies. But it's an effective way to stuff the bike into a corner and come out without losing too much speed.
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Old 09-15-2004   #24
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I don't use it but can anyone explain EXACTLY what it is or how you do it?!?!
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Old 09-15-2004   #25
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I don't use it but can anyone explain EXACTLY what it is or how you do it?!?!
Carrying the brakes past the turn entry.

"Braking for a corner loads the front tire, compresses the front suspension and tightens rake and trail, allowing the motorcycle to steer quicker. Trail braking well past the turn-in point allows the rider to continue slowing the bike and help it steer, adjusting the line if need be while maintaining the load factor on the front tire." - Freddie Spencer "Riding Techniques: Four Ways to Steer a Motorcycle"

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Old 09-15-2004   #26
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understanding that a tire has only so much tracktion will allow you to better understand how much trail braking, steering, or a combination of both you can do.

the best way that I can explain it is like this....if you take a pie and cut it in half, one half is the force exerted on the front tire for turning, the other is left over, now you can exert as much braking force on that tire as long as you dont eat the whole pie. once the pie is gone, so it your tire. The size of your pie depends on A LOT of variables. 1. Tires 2 Tire tempreture 3 Suspension 4 air pressure 5 road conditions, and any number of other variables.

so just remember, you can eat your pie, just dont be a glutton and eat it all at one time....lol
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Old 09-15-2004   #27
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thanks for clarifying john

Dont want people to think trailbraking is yanking on the front while already in a turn... That is "oh crap!" not trailbraking
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Old 09-15-2004   #28
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That's funny coming from someone who parks it in the corners.

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I've been trailbraking for years and the technique is a bit tricky for newbies. But it's an effective way to stuff the bike into a corner and come out without losing too much speed.
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Old 09-15-2004   #29
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My mommy told me if I trail-braked, I'd go blind. Or get hairy palms. And that it makes baby Jesus cry.
Did your mother ever show you this:




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Old 09-15-2004   #30
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lmfao@ the Sarge, adn at Rob......
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